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Bible quote of the week: “God said (to himself presumably), ‘Let the earth produce every kind of living creature in its own species: cattle, creeping things and wild animals of all kinds’. And so it was. God made wild animals in their own species, and cattle in theirs, and every creature that crawls along the earth in its own species. God saw that it was good.”
Now forgive me, but I cannot work out what this god was thinking as it came up with the blueprint for the bot fly. “I’ve got an idea”, god said to one of the other thirds of himself, “Why don’t we, that’s I, create a fly that lays it eggs inside other living creatures. Then, once the eggs have hatched, the larvae can eat that other living creature from the inside out?”
One of the other thirds of god responded with a cheeky grin on his face, “That’s nothing, how about we, that’s I, make a fish that makes habit of swimming up the end of a man’s whatsit, hooks on and well, I’ll leave the rest to your imagination?”
The three thirds of that one god didn’t stop there, no sir they made literally thousands upon thousands of creatures that seemingly have the express purpose of terrorising man or other living creatures.
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Now forgive me, but doesnt there seem to be some correlation between religiosity and the abundance of these creatures that seemingly have the express purpose of causing death and chaos? The WHO, (World Health Organisation), have an overwhelming array of information concerning worldwide disease, mortality rates and so on and they all seem to point to the same thing: More religious= more painful senseless deaths by miniscule and highly bizarre creatures, created with love by the man upstairs.
Needless to say it isn’t just with small, deadly creatures. If you look up the WHO statistics of child mortality, (under 5), you will find that the UK with an apparent 33% religiosity has 6 children out of 1000 die. Mali with 90% religiosity has a child under 5 mortality rate of 218 per 1000. Of course the correlation continues: You will find that the gross national income per capita of the UK is $32,690 but if you look at Mali you’ll find the gross national income per capita is a meager $1,000. There’s even a correlation between life expectancy. In the UK it is 77, (man), while in Mali it is 45. Life starts at 40 indeed…
So what do we ultimately have here?
The more religious a nation..
1) More of their children die.
2) They earn less.
3) They die sooner.
4) (As a result of 2 mainly) They are the less educated.
5) They get terrorised by all kinds of god created creatures which helps aid 1 and 3.
Am I going to be the first person here to come to the conclusion that this god does not spend much time looking after his own? That amongst world suffering, the religious have it the worst? So who, upon looking at all those famous images of suffering children, wants to be the first to explain to me that this god truly does care and, as our good friend Jesus claims, they can even drink poison and move mountains if they have faith? In their case, when Jesus says they can drink poison, they literally are. And no, clearly they don’t survive the event - with thanks to god’s army - those small, often - to quote Twain - ‘invisible creatures’.
I think it’s quite safe to say that all of us that are able to read this page do not really appreciate the predicament. From my perspective, the most dangerous creature I have ever seen was a drunk, schizophrenic hedgehog that had the audacity to point it’s spikes at me - that ultimately ended up causing me a case of slight finger bleed. And yet right now, right as you read this very word, some poor child you’ll never know the name of has just dropped dead because of one of god’s inventions. All creatures great and small… ah, the tune resounds in the ear. I don’t think it will do the poor screaming woman any good though as she rocks her dead child back and forth and prays to the very same being that assured her childs death, indeed set out to make sure of it with a passion.
Amusing as it is I get the distinct impression that some theist is going to email me saying that mosquitoes and the like were actually vegetarian in the garden of Eden, and that yes, it’s somehow our fault mosquitoes now suck blood and spread disease. My mind wanders with images of Mr. Mosquito, (and indeed Mr T-Rex), munching on dandelions and daffodils.
I think, because it happens to be a work of brilliance, that I shall allow Mr. Twain to point out a few pertinent things:
The hookworm was discovered two or three years ago by a physician, who had been patiently studying its victims for a long time. The disease induced by the hookworm had been doing its evil work here and there in the earth ever since Shem landed on Ararat, but it was never suspected to be a disease at all. The people who had it were merely supposed to be lazy, and were therefore despised and made fun of, when they should have been pitied. The hookworm is a peculiarly sneaking and underhanded invention, and has done its surreptitious work unmolested for ages; but that physician and his helpers will exterminate it now.
God is back of this. He has been thinking about it for six thousand years, and making up his mind. The idea of exterminating the hookworm was his. He came very near doing it before Dr. Charles Wardell Stiles did. But he is in time to get the credit of it. He always is.
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The poor children are under the Eye that never sleeps, you see. They have had that ill luck in all the ages. They and “the Lord’s poor” - as the sarcastic phrase goes - have never been able to get away from that Eye’s attentions.
Yes, the poor, the humble, the ignorant — they are the ones that catch it. Take the “Sleeping Sickness,” of Africa. This atrocious cruelty has for its victims a race of ignorant and unoffending blacks whom God placed in a remote wilderness, and bent his parental Eye upon them — the one that never sleeps when there is a chance to breed sorrow for somebody. He arranged for these people before the Flood. The chosen agent was a fly, related to the tsetse; the tsetse is a fly which has command of the Zambezi country and stings cattle and horses to death, thus rendering that region uninhabitable by man. The tsetse’s awful relative deposits a microbe which produces the Sleeping Sickness. Ham was full of these microbes, and when the voyage was over he discharged them in Africa and the havoc began, never to find amelioration until six thousand years should go by and science should pry into the mystery and hunt out the cause of the disease. The pious nations are now thanking God, and praising him for coming to the rescue of his poor blacks. The pulpit says the praise is due to him. He is surely a curious Being. He commits a fearful crime, continues that crime unbroken for six thousand years, and is then entitled to praise because he suggests to somebody else to modify its severities.’
Indeed like I, it seems Twain was intrigued by many of this gods creations and the effect they would have on people. The interesting thing though given all of the above is that they do not set out to do their duty on the unbeliever, the blasphemous. Seemingly they have been programmed instead to target the poor religious. Indeed we would all generally agree on who needs the most help. It is quite surprising when we recognise that the help needs to go to the most faithful.
Do remember, every time the newspaper screams “bird flu” or something similar, it did not create itself. The only theist accepted creator is their god. I would think that all theists would surely demand that science back down and allow gods creation to do that which it was created to do. No, these things were not created with the express purpose of playing tennis. They were created to kill in the most despicable ways imaginable the most vulnerable and cherished of our kind.
But it is ok, the theist shouts. Your dead child is now in heaven - amusingly enough a place that is imaged completely devoid of all of these creations of god.
218 out of 1000 children dead before they reach the age of 5, many because of a god designed creature no bigger than your thumbnail. No party, no job, no sex, no worshipping gods.. Just pain and death before they’re even old enough to understand the concept of gods. A tragic, senseless waste of life.
I’ll leave this with a song…
“All things bright and beautiful, all creatures great and small… the lord god made them all”.
Click here for a version not suitable for those under the delusion that all of god’s creations are wonderful things..
January 9th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I love your website!
~ M*W
March 2nd, 2008 at 4:53 pm
I love this site. Good work.
March 9th, 2008 at 2:49 am
Congratulations Snakelord. You have offered a preponderance of evidence that suggests…
that the religious in our world are not his own.
something that i have known…for a long time.
Love you.
April 4th, 2008 at 7:35 am
Provide evidence for your outrageous assertions.
oh man, you are seriously misinformed mister.
[edit: Combined your two separate posts]
April 4th, 2008 at 10:29 am
Hi Steve,
I would be more than happy to provide source data and any other material if you could perhaps be a tad more specific.
April 15th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Quote—-”“God said (to himself presumably), ‘Let the earth produce every kind of living creature—–End Quote
Interestingly enough Ive been watching a debate about evolution on another forum. Needless to say there are differing opinions among atheists, and also among christians.
I happened to notice the particular wording of this scripture as you qouted it, and it struck me that as God created everything he may not have made every species of life directly.
The above quote says “Let the earth produce”– Not that the earth can produce anything apart from the rest of the universe, but is influenced by its particular geography and the life already produced there. But the wording here reminded me of the idea of evolution. Some say that God made all things individually, others that God made certain creatures and let nature do the rest, and others that God just started life and let nature do most of it.
So I would say that your sarcasm and attitudes toward God would offend not all, but many christians. Other Christians would argue that nature is imperfect and causes many creatures to exist that have no obvious good purpose (to us anyway).
Other Christians would argue that since the Fall of Adam and Eve, creation has been twisted and is therefore capable of producing all kinds of monstrous creatures until the day Jesus returns to make all things new.
Still others would say that God has allowed all things to exist by his grace if not his direct will. Why he has allowed these things to exist we do not know, but we hold onto his promise- romans 8
” 22We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved……..
28And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
So- some people who want to have a nice tidy explanation for why things exist might not accept this explanation, but then again thats why they call it faith.
As for why less developed nations value faith more isnt it obvious? In america we dont need God, we can control our own destiny, we are free of the monsters of the natural world, we have no need for salvation because we own the universe.
Really though, did it ever occur to you that this life was designed to point us toward God, because we need him? Think about it, all of those people in lesser nations live, breath, laugh, love, all in the face of conditions we would be miserable in. Do you know why? Because they look forward to a life beyond this one, where there will be no hardships. Americans who live with material luxury dont understand this. They think that these people are superstitious and are clinging to a false hope to make their lives seem more bearable. Believe it if you want, but why not talk to them, and live in their circumstances before passing them off as delusional?